The Five Lamest Excuses for Hillary Clinton’s Vote to Invade Iraq

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Former senator and secretary of state Hillary Clinton is the only candidate for the 2016 Democratic presidential nomination who supported the invasion of Iraq.

That war not only resulted in 4,500 American soldiers being killed and thousands more permanently disabled, but also hundreds of thousands of Iraqi deaths, the destabilization of the region with the rise of the Islamic State and other extremists, and a dramatic increase in the federal deficit, resulting in major cutbacks to important social programs. Moreover, the primary reasons Clinton gave for supporting President George W. Bush’s request for authorizing that illegal and unnecessary war have long been proven false.

As a result, many Democratic voters are questioning — despite her years of foreign policy experience — whether Clinton has the judgment and integrity to lead the United States on the world stage. It was just such concerns that resulted in her losing the 2008 nomination to then-Senator Barack Obama, an outspoken Iraq War opponent.

This time around, Clinton supporters have been hoping that enough Democratic voters — the overwhelming majority of whom opposed the war — will forget about her strong endorsement of the Bush administration’s most disastrous foreign policy. Failing that, they’ve come up with a number of excuses to justify her October 2002 vote for the authorization of military force.

Here they are, in no particular order.

 “Hillary Clinton’s vote wasn’t for war, but simply to pressure Saddam Hussein to allow UN weapons inspectors back into Iraq.”

At the time of vote, Saddam Hussein had already agreed in principle to a return of the weapons inspectors. His government was negotiating with the United Nations Monitoring and Verification Commission on the details, which were formally institutionalized a few weeks later. (Indeed, it would have been resolved earlier had the United States not repeatedly postponed a UN Security Council resolution in the hopes of inserting language that would have allowed Washington to unilaterally interpret the level of compliance.)

Furthermore, if then-Senator Clinton’s desire was simply to push Saddam into complying with the inspection process, she wouldn’t have voted against the substitute Levin amendment, which would have also granted President Bush authority to use force, but only if Iraq defied subsequent UN demands regarding the inspections process. Instead, Clinton voted for a Republican-sponsored resolution to give Bush the authority to invade Iraq at the time and circumstances of his own choosing.

In fact, unfettered large-scale weapons inspections had been going on in Iraq for nearly four months at the time the Bush administration launched the March 2003 invasion. Despite the UN weapons inspectors having not found any evidence of WMDs or active WMD programs after months of searching, Clinton made clear that the United States should invade Iraq anyway. Indeed, she asserted that even though Saddam was in full compliance with the UN Security Council, he nevertheless needed to resign as president, leave the country, and allow U.S. troops to occupy the country. “The president gave Saddam Hussein one last chance to avoid war,” Clinton said in a statement, “and the world hopes that Saddam Hussein will finally hear this ultimatum, understand the severity of those words, and act accordingly.”

When Saddam refused to resign and the Bush administration launched the invasion, Clinton went on record calling for “unequivocal support” for Bush’s “firm leadership and decisive action” as “part of the ongoing Global War on Terrorism.” She insisted that Iraq was somehow still “in material breach of the relevant United Nations resolutions” and, despite the fact that weapons inspectors had produced evidence to the contrary, claimed the invasion was necessary to “neutralize Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction.”

“Nearly everyone in Congress supported the invasion of Iraq, including most Democrats.”

While all but one congressional Democrat — Representative Barbara Lee of California — supported the authorization of force to fight al-Qaeda in the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks in 2001, a sizable majority of Democrats in Congress voted against the authorization to invade Iraq the following year.

There were 21 Senate Democrats — along with one Republican, Lincoln Chafee, and one independent, Jim Jeffords — who voted against the war resolution, while 126 of 209 House Democrats also voted against it. Bernie Sanders, then an independent House member who caucused with the Democrats, voted with the opposition. At the time, Sanders gave a floor speech disputing the administration’s claims about Saddam’s arsenal. He not only cautioned that both American and Iraqi casualties could rise unacceptably high, but also warned “about the precedent that a unilateral invasion of Iraq could establish in terms of international law and the role of the United Nations.”

Hillary Clinton, on the other hand, stood among the right-wing minority of Democrats in Washington.

The Democrats controlled the Senate at the time of the war authorization. Had they closed ranks and voted in opposition, the Bush administration would have been unable to launch the tragic invasion — at least not legally. Instead, Clinton and other pro-war Democrats chose to cross the aisle to side with the Republicans.

“Her vote was simply a mistake.”

While few Clinton supporters are still willing to argue her support for the war was a good thing, many try to minimize its significance by referring to it as simply a “mistake.” But while it may have been a terrible decision, it was neither an accident nor an aberration from Clinton’s generally hawkish worldview.

It would have been a “mistake” if Hillary Clinton had pushed the “aye” button when she meant to push the “nay” button. In fact, her decision — by her own admission — was quite conscious.

The October 2002 war resolution on Iraq wasn’t like the 1964 Gulf of Tonkin resolution authorizing military force in Vietnam, which was quickly passed as an emergency request by President Lyndon Johnson when there was no time for reflection and debate. By contrast, at the time of the Iraq War authorization, there had been months of public debate on the matter. Clinton had plenty of time to investigate the administration’s claims that Iraq was a threat, as well as to consider the likely consequences of a U.S. invasion.

Also unlike the Gulf of Tonkin resolution, which was disingenuously presented as an authorization to retaliate for an alleged attack on U.S. ships, members of Congress recognized that the Iraq resolution authorized a full-scale invasion of a sovereign nation and a subsequent military occupation. Clinton had met with scores of constituents, arms control analysts, and Middle East scholars who informed her that the war was unnecessary, illegal, and would likely end in disaster.

But she decided to support going to war anyway. She even rejected the advice of fellow Democratic senator Bob Graham that she read the full National Intelligence Estimate, which would have further challenged some of the Bush administration’s claims justifying the war.

It was not, therefore, simply a “mistake,” or a momentary lapse of judgment. Indeed, in her own words, she cast her vote “with conviction.”

As late as February 2007, Clinton herself refused to admit that her vote for the war resolution was a mistake. “If the most important thing to any of you is choosing someone who did not cast that vote or has said his vote was a mistake,” she said while campaigning for president, “then there are others to choose from.” She only began to acknowledge her regrets when she saw the polling numbers showing that a sizable majority of Democrats opposed the decision to go to war.

“She voted for the war because she felt it was politically necessary.”

First of all, voting for a devastating war in order to advance one’s political career isn’t a particularly strong rationale for why one shouldn’t share responsibility for the consequences — especially when that calculation proved disastrously wrong. Clinton’s vote to authorize the invasion was the single most important factor in convincing former supporters to back Barack Obama in the 2008 Democratic primary, thereby costing her the nomination.

Nevertheless, it still raises questions regarding Hillary Clinton’s competence to become president.

To have believed that supporting the invasion would somehow be seen as a good thing would have meant that Clinton believed that the broad consensus of Middle East scholars who warned of a costly counterinsurgency war were wrong — and that the Bush administration’s insistence that U.S. occupation forces would be “treated as liberators” was credible.

After all, for the war to have been popular, there would have had to be few American casualties, and the administration’s claims about WMDs and Iraq’s ties to al-Qaeda would have had to be vindicated. Moreover, some sort of stable pro-Western democracy would have emerged in Iraq, and the invasion would have contributed to greater stability and democracy in the region.

If Clinton believed any of those things were possible, she wasn’t paying attention. Among the scores of reputable Middle East scholars with whom I discussed the prospects of a U.S. invasion in the months leading up to the vote, none of them believed that any of these things would come to pass. They were right.

Nor was pressure likely coming from Clinton’s own constituents. Only a minority of Democrats nationwide supported the invasion, and given that New York Democrats are more liberal than the national average, opposition was possibly even stronger in the state she purported to represent. Additionally, a majority of Americans polled said they would oppose going to war if Saddam allowed for “full and complete” weapons inspectors, which he in fact did.

Finally, the idea that Clinton felt obliged to support the war as a woman in order not to appear “weak” also appears groundless. Indeed, every female senator who voted against the war authorization was easily re-elected.

“She thought Iraq had ‘weapons of mass destruction’ and was supporting Al-Qaeda.”

This is excuse is problematic on a number levels.

Before the vote, UN inspectors, independent strategic analysts, and reputable arms control journals all challenged the Bush administration’s claims that Iraq had somehow rebuilt its chemical and biological weapons programs, had a nuclear weapons program, or was supporting al-Qaeda terrorists.

Virtually all of Iraq’s known stockpiles of chemical and biological agents had been accounted for, and the shelf life of the small amount of materiel that hadn’t been accounted for had long since expired. (Some discarded canisters from the 1980s were eventually found, but these weren’t operational.) There was no evidence that Iraq had any delivery systems for such weapons either, or could build them without being detected. In addition, a strict embargo against imports of any additional materials needed for the manufacture of WMDs — which had been in effect since 1990 — made any claims that Iraq had offensive capability transparently false to anyone who cared to investigate the matter at that time.

Most of the alleged intelligence data made available to Congress prior to the war authorization vote has since been declassified. Most strategic analysts have found it transparently weak, based primarily on hearsay by Iraqi exiles of dubious credibility and conjecture by ideologically driven Bush administration officials.

Similarly, a detailed 1998 report by the International Atomic Energy Agency indicated that Iraq’s nuclear program appeared to have been completely dismantled by the mid-1990s, and a 2002 U.S. National Intelligence Estimate made no mention of any reconstituted nuclear development effort. So it’s doubtful Clinton actually had reason to believe her own claims that Iraq had a nuclear weapons program.

Additionally, there was no credible evidence whatsoever that the secular Baathist Iraqi regime had any ties to the hardline Islamist group al-Qaeda, yet Clinton distinguished herself as the only Senate Democrat to make such a claim. Indeed, a definitive report by the Department of Defense noted that not only did no such link exist, but that none could have even been reasonably suggested based on the evidence available at that time.

Moreover, even if Iraq really did have “weapons of mass destruction,” the war would have still been illegal, unnecessary, and catastrophic.

Roughly 30 countries (including the United States) have chemical, biological, or nuclear programs with weapons potential. The mere possession of these programs is not legitimate grounds for invasion, unless one is authorized by the United Nations Security Council — which the invasion of Iraq, pointedly, was not. If Clinton really thought Iraq’s alleged possession of those weapons justified her support for invading the country, then she was effectively saying the United States somehow has the right to invade dozens of other countries as well.

Similarly, even if Iraq had been one of those 30 countries — and remember, it was not — the threat of massive retaliation by Iraq’s neighbors and U.S. forces permanently stationed in the region provided a more than sufficient deterrent to Iraq using the weapons beyond its borders. A costly invasion and extended occupation were completely unnecessary.

Finally, the subsequent war and the rise of sectarianism, terrorism, Islamist extremism, and the other negative consequences of the invasion would have been just as bad even if the rationale weren’t bogus. American casualties could have actually been much higher, since WMDs would have likely been used against invading U.S. forces.

But here’s the kicker: Clinton stood by the war even after these claims were definitively debunked.

Even many months after the Bush administration itself acknowledged that Iraq had neither WMDs nor ties to Al-Qaeda, Clinton declared in a speech at George Washington University that her support for the authorization was still “the right vote” and one that “I stand by.” Similarly, in an interview on Larry King Live in April 2004, when asked about her vote despite the absence of WMDs or al-Qaeda ties, she acknowledged, “I don’t regret giving the president authority.”

No Excuses

The 2016 Democratic presidential campaign is coming down to a race between Hillary Clinton, who supported the Bush Doctrine and its call for invading countries that are no threat to us regardless of the consequences, and Bernie Sanders, who supported the broad consensus of Middle East scholars and others familiar with the region who recognized that such an invasion would be disastrous.

There’s no question that the United States is long overdue to elect a woman head of state. But electing Hillary Clinton — or anyone else who supported the invasion of Iraq — would be sending a dangerous message that reckless global militarism needn’t prevent someone from becoming president, even as the nominee of the more liberal of the two major parties.

It also raises this ominous scenario: If Clinton were elected president despite having voted to give President Bush the authority, based on false pretenses, to launch a war of aggression — in violation of the UN Charter, the Nuremberg Principles, and common sense — what would stop her from demanding that Congress give her the same authority?

Foreign Policy In Focus columnist Stephen Zunes is a professor of politics and coordinator of Middle Eastern Studies at the University of San Francisco.

  • asclepiuskay

    Bernie Sanders is winning and you still have people trying to prop that pathetic attempt at a politician up for the world to ridicule #FeelTheBern

  • Broos

    The Despicable she’s bin proven to be NO head of State. Stead of HATE, maybe (an Orwellian 2 minutes); OR, an interminable 10 HOURS!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orYcAiFqknU
    A BS (Big Sister) Oceaniac EPITOME !! Don’t give her A HOME!!!

  • DangerRuss

    Best article on this I’ve seen yet. Absolutely no chance, if she’s nominated, I will be among those casting a hold-your-nose vote.

  • DangerRuss

    I meant that I WON’T be among those casting a hold-your-nose vote.

  • Slack

    The other female senators who voted against the war were likely not voting based on knowing they’d someday be running for president. Hillary was always going to be running for president and that played a major role in her warped, bankrupt thinking on this issue.

  • Newfirelock

    Emotional About Hillary

    JAMES ROGERS BUSH·WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 27, 2016

    There is a lot of talk about how Hillary Clinton does not move some people emotionally.

    I don’t really understand this, because it has always been easy for me to feel emotional about Hillary.

    I guess this first started when I met her at a garden party, thrown by a local Democratic committee chairman, at his home on the ocean, in Santa Cruz, Ca.

    It was 1992, Hillary was stumping for Bill, and due to my previous political activism, I was invited to this party in the local committee chairman’s yard.

    Leon Panetta, our local congressman at the time, and many other party notaries were there to meet Hillary Clinton, who showed up with her entourage and secret service detachment in dark colored vans, and, after being greeted and shaking hands with the Democratic committee chairman, moved to the center of the yard and began to speak about her husband and what he could do for the country.

    As I listened, and when her eyes met mine, I was invaded by a thought that I have carried with me ever since that day. I heard myself, saying to myself that this woman was not just stumping for Bill’s run to the White House, she was stumping for the both of them. She was not just a wife, she was a partner, and what is more, I realized, then and there, that one day she would run for the White House herself. I remember saying to myself that I was looking into the eyes of the first woman President of the United States.

    In the many years that followed, I watched the Clinton’s trajectory (one that we all know so well) and I have been, by turns, excited, inspired, disappointed, angered, re-inspired, and excited again. Through it all, I have never ceased to be amazed at how Hillary Clinton has weathered ‘the arrows of outrageous fortune,’ continued to work for the causes she is committed to, and how she has never given up keeping her eye on the prize: The White House.

    For me, Hillary’s story is a very emotional one, and I wonder why this emotion is not shared by many others. Perhaps it is the ‘right wing conspiracy’ that Hillary complained about early on, and took flak for, even though we all know by now, that, in fact, a conspiracy does exist. Perhaps there has been so much in the press, that has implied that there is something inherently dishonest about Hillary’s manner, machinations and motives, that now many folks believe all of it, regardless of wether it’s true or not.

    Or perhaps we are witnessing, just as we did with President Obama, that sexism, like racism, is a deep seated problem in our culture, and Hillary, as a strong, intelligent woman, is on the receiving end of that sexism, which is not only limited to men, but is also prevalent among many women.

    All through history, those folks who have strived to break the barriers and glass ceilings that bigotry has placed in their way, have been on the receiving end of accusations that they are too uppity, too arrogant, too strident, too sneaky, too manipulative, too cold, too… whatever. Every adjective that could be used against them, was used, to block their progress, belittle their efforts, and dissuade their spirits from carrying on their fight for equality.

    I think that if Hillary was a man, no one, except Republicans, would have a problem with who she is, how she has behaved, or how she is running for the White House. And frankly, I don’t think the Republicans who know her and have worked with her, really feel the things they say about her. I think they all respect, admire, and even think she would be a good president. They just can’t say so at the moment.

    We are at a crossroads in history, and, as Americans, we have a very serious choice to make. Do we choose the old Socialist, the Capitalist demagogue, or the first woman president?

    There will always be someone from the far left and far right, telling us that they have the answers to America’s problems, but we may never see the likes of a Hillary Clinton again. Even an Elizabeth Warren has a long way to go, to match the experience, knowledge and talent of a Hillary Clinton, or her ability to work with all sides on any given issue.

    When I consider the chance that we Democrats now have, to elect the first woman president, not just because she is a woman, but also because she is the most qualified for the job, I get emotional. And when I see that this race for the White House is one for us to lose, and that if we lose, we will lose much more than just the presidency, I get emotional

    But I get even more emotional when I think of what Hillary has gone through to get to this place. I get incredibly emotional when I think of the pain she has suffered and the abuse she has taken. And I get very emotional when I think of how hard she has worked, on her sometimes very lonely path, to get where she now is.

    In the end, I think of Hillary Clinton, the dedicated American public servant, who has struggled and strived throughout her life to make things better for all Americans, and I think of the Hillary Clinton that is dedicated to fighting for equality for all Americans, especially American women, and I get very, very emotional indeed.

    JRB

    • rdzk

      Thank youbut somehow what works always syncs for her advantage too often. When she dumped Arkansas for NY, that was the end. No loyalty. And she is not more qualified than anyone else– she does have more TOS. Maybe that is the problem, this has been going for too long and she does not have the spark left! Let us not take away what she has accomplished.

      • Newfirelock

        Anyone who stays tough after what she has been through, definitely has plenty of ‘spark.’ Perhaps you lack the staying power, and spark, necessary to maintain the loyalty that you claim she lacks?

    • JDog

      You seem to be confusing unfettered ambition and cutthroat entitlement with leadership qualities. She is no public servant, but a servant to her own ego, and seems perfectly happy to lie, yes, to say anything, to get what she wants. She is very smart, but being smart can serve evil as easily as it can serve good. I would love to vote for a woman for President, I think we need at least a more balanced representation in our Congress, but Hillary Clinton is an opportunist and a narcissist, and I hope we don’t find out just how dangerous she really is.

      • Newfirelock

        What exactly has she done that is evil? Also, how is she any more of a narcissist than Donald Trump? Isn’t there just a little of the narcissist in every politician, including Bernie sanders, not to mention the opportunism in involved in taking advantage of a political climate to get elected to the most powerful position on the planet? All politicians do what they from a mixture of ideals and self-interest. If you don’t know this, you don’t know politics.

        • SqueakyRat

          She is, quite simply, an imperialist (of the contemporary sort). That’s what her Iraq war vote demonstrates.
          That is evil enough for me.
          But let’s not forget the millions of dollars in speaking fees she has accepted from the Wall Street thugs whose interests are directly opposed to those of the vast majority of people she is asking to vote for her.

          • Newfirelock

            But where is the evil?

          • SqueakyRat

            Do I really have to explain? Imperialism is evil. Simple enough?

          • Newfirelock

            By your standards, tell me what politician is not “evil.” If you “know” politics then you know that there no saints among politicians. Besides what is evil to you is necessity to someone else. All you are expressing is your opinion, nothing more.

          • beat stocker

            Her support of the Iraq-invasion as a complete world-desaster with complete evil results for generations to be topped by atomic war only. I am astonished you asked your question pretending to know politics. Poor US.

        • dale ruff

          She supported the sanctions against Iraq which killed half a million young children; she voted for a criminal war, which killed another half a million; she funded the overthrow of the elected govt of Ukraine by the neo-fascists, igniting a new Cold War. What has she done that is not evil? CHIPS? This was done after working against Kennedy’s efforts to expand healthcare.
          Banks? She supported repealing Glass-Steagall, leading to the Great Recession,and she takes millions in personal bribes from the 4 big banks which control over 60% of US banking assets. Then she lies that millions have not changed her vote, ignoring that she is paid for her positions in support of the banks’ desire to keep the US taxpayer as backup for their casino banking ventures. She also opposes single payer, which over 80% of Democrats support, as well as the majority of Americans, on the grounds that it would undo the unpopular 5 yr old ACA (a right wing plan) to build a program on the 50 yr old and very popular Medicare program. She is a hawk, a liar, and she has flipped 3 times on the TPP! Wake up!

          • Newfirelock

            Political opinion. In my opinion the sanctions were necessary, the overthrow of the Ukraine government was a good thing, the Chips comment is BS, repealing Glass-Steagall was Democratic Party decision, wether the money she got were “bribes” depends on your point of view, single payer will never work in the US (at least not yet) and the ACA is a good thing, wether she is a “Hawk” or just tough also depends on your point of view, and all politicians lie and flip flop.
            You should be the one to “wake up.” Do you really believe that there is a perfect politician out there who is going to be everything you want and give you everything you want? You must be very young and foolish, or just a left-wing zealot, which makes you even more dangerous.

          • dale ruff

            The sanctions failed on both counts: they were supposed to end WMD, which in fact did not exist, and get rid of Saddam, which also failed.

            They did kill half a million very young children, a crime akin to Hitler’s worst crimes. You are defending a failed policy which killed 500,000 children. Fuck you!

          • Newfirelock

            It was the UN Security Council that put the sanctions on Iraq. Now maybe you hate the UN also? Lets see, how many children have been saved by UN organizations? Hmm…and you say that it was “a crime akin to Hitlers worst crimes.” Except that Hitler committed his crimes on purpose, what happened to the children in Iraq was unintended. Besides Saddam could have ended the sanctions at any time, just by complying with the demands of the international community, but he didn’t care about the children, did he? Guess he thought that it would work in his favor to let them die? You are sooo naive! But hey, anyone who completes a comment with “Fuck you!” can’t be too mature or bright.

          • dale ruff

            The US pushed for the sanctions. Here is the UN estimate of very young children who died as a result: “UNICEF: 500,000 children (including sanctions, collateral effects of war). “[As of 1999] [c]hildren under 5 years of age are dying at more than twice the rate they were ten years ago.”

            Clinton says it was “worth it,” tho the sanctions failed. The deaths of children was totally inevitible and predictable….but Clinton, Albright, Richardson and other New Democrats thought it worth it to try to get rid of Saddam.

            Hitler did not kill children intentionally but as a byproduct of his wars and incarceration of slave labor, just as the deaths of half a million children was a byproduct of economic warfare.

            The attempt to shift guilt for policies which killed half a million people is very dishonest. If US had taken in Jewish refugees, millions would have been spared deaths in the death camps. Are you arguing the US is responsible for the Holocaust?

            Iraq rejected the UN resolution because: “A U.N. certification that Iraq no longer possesses weapons of mass destruction was the original condition for the lifting of the sanctions. But weapons inspectors left Iraq on Dec. 16, 1998, just before the United States and Britain launched the air strikes to punish Baghdad for failing to cooperate with their efforts.

            Aziz criticized the omission of any reference in the resolution to daily flights by U.S. and British warplanes over Iraq”

            .

            Fuck you is what I say to people who defend the killing of half a million children. Fuck you! I would say the same to anyone defending the deaths of a million children in the death camps or seeking to defend the criminal war on Iraq under Bush, based on lies. I condemn your defense of mass murder of half a million children 5 and under in the strongest terms, of which Fuck You! is the best I can do.

          • dale ruff

            You support overthrowing democratically elected governments and replacing them with neo-fascist?

            As for CHIPs,it’s a fact that Clinton originally opposed the Kennedy plan.
            You can call it buillshit but its a fact.

            As for Glass-Steagall, you show your total ignorance of history when you say it was a Democratic Party decision. Here is the vote:
            Senate:
            Dems against: 44……………… for 1
            Republicans for: 53………..against 0

            And if you think banks will give away millions without expecting something in return, you are hopelessly naive.

            Why will not single payer work in the US? It works in over 50 other countries at half the cost. The ACA does not achieve the savings of single payer (it was the Republican plan, designed to create tens of millions of new, captive, and subsidized customers) because it keeps in place the parasitic private insurers who extract 500 billion a year without adding any value to our healthcare: pure waste.

            If you vote for war in Afghanistan,Iraq,Libya, and Syria, you are a hawk by anyone’s defintion.

            There is no perfect politician so that is a straw man fallacy.

            I am a sernior citizen with a world class education in political science, an independent who understands how the game is played. You are supporting a corrupt and hawkish candidate who the polls show losing to 4 of the top 5 Republicans. Hillary lost on Hillarycare, defend failed sanctions, which killed half a million children 5 and under! voted wrong and strongly supported invading Iraq, funded the fascist overthrow of democracy in Ukraine, opposes single payer and reinstating Glass Steagall and has grown rich by giving speeches for $250,000 to banks.

            She has been wrong on every major decision, loses on the electability issue,and is corrupt through and through. She is not a progressive,as she formed the DNC to “exterminate” the Progressive Caucus. She flipped 3 times on the TPP……….she is an opportunist in the worst tradition of politicians.

        • Klynzi

          I’m sorry, but as a woman I would never use “playing victim” to sexism as a reason to be voted in, just as also being a person of color, I can recognize that Obama never said, “If I’m not nominated it’s because I’m black.” If you have to use an article length response to this article on why you think Hillary can be trusted to lead this country, you are then clearly clouded by your emotions and unable to be driven by logic. I don’t see how anyone in their right mind can read this article and still come out pleaing for Hillary. Hint: Maybe it’s because you refuse to keep an open mind.

  • Someone

    There’s only one issue in this election, get the under the table money out of Politics. Anytime you don’t like what’s going on, just follow the money.Feel The Bern!

  • Luis

    Pure evil from Iraq to Libya and who knows where else. Now she wants to sit in the White House. God help us.

  • JackLinks

    BFD, she voted yes for a pack of lies told by a White House that was caught with it’s pants down on 9-11, even after it had been warned about a month earlier of just an attack!
    The White House led by Cheney and the hawks had only one thing to sell to the American people and that was FEAR!

    • Tahoeprogressive

      This vote is my major reservation about voting for Hillary. I had heated discussions with people who supported the invasion which I strongly felt was unwarranted. I searched for differing opinions and found enough, from what I felt were reliable, to be strongly against the invasion and war. My strong feeling at the time: so what if Saddam had WMD. He knew if he attacked any of his neighbors the world leaders would take him out. This was shown after the 1990/91 Gulf war.

    • JDog

      Fear, in order for them to profit incredibly… look at the billions made by Halliburton alone.

  • alexander

    Outstanding article !

  • rdzk

    SenClinton is as guilty ad PresBus. She had the same info. She is right about the ‘vast rwing conspiracr’ but that does not in any way excuse Iraq, she must be accountable, or thete is never amycorrection.

  • KenH

    I, like a lot of Americans, allowed myself to be deceived by the Bush administration in the run-up to the Iraq invasion, and then learned better afterwards. I held Clinton’s vote against her in 2008 but not now. In my opinion, it’s time to remember the lessons from that mistaken war and move on.

  • Newfirelock
  • richardbelldc

    Zunes is spending too much time beating a bunch of dead “excuses” here. John Kerry voted for the Iraq resolution; other Democrats vote for this resolution. I sincerely doubt that a single one of them believed any of the bullshit about weapons of mass destruction or the like. Only one of Zunes’ five “excuses” has any real merit, that Clinton “voted for the war because she felt it was politically necessary.”

    From the point of view of someone who has worked inside the belly of the Democratic beast, I would argue that Zunes is grossly underestimating the role of the fear of surviving the next election, a fear which can easily trump (ha ha) even the most principled review of the outcome of a vote. With the exception of a few extraordinary officials, the bottom line on a given issue for most politicians is whether a vote will help or hurt their chances for reelection, in terms of fundraising potential, or votes, or both. The rest of what Zunes calls “excuses” are nothing more than the paper produced by staff and think tanks to justify the underlying politically driven decision.

    So in looking at the Iraq vote, we have to start with the political reality that in U.S. elections, the Republicans long ago succeeded in positioning the Democrats as the party of weakness, of appeasement. Democrats are, as a result, what you might call “gun shy.” That is, they evaluate any potential use of U.S. force from the point of view of getting hammered, and losing, in the next election for being, depending on the period, “soft on communism,” or “soft on terrorism,” etc.

    I am not arguing that Democrats are mindless on this issue. Again with a few exceptions, Democratic officials and their staffs are quite aware of the dangers of foreign adventures and interventionism. The question is what happens when a moment arrives that pits this awareness against their fears for survival in the next election. I cannot tell you how many times I have seen people whom I thought knew better fall down the rat hole of justifying a bad vote now in the name of doing better in the future, after they survive the next election, or win the presidency.

    In the case of the 2002 vote, in the final decision meeting before Kerry voted, his campaign manager told him the he would never win the presidency if he voted against the resolution. It is a bitter irony indeed that if Kerry had listened to his policy people instead and voted against the resolution, in keeping with his anti-Vietnam War work, he would almost surely have been elected president. Howard Dean, who got into the race to push his work on health care, would never have gotten the purchase he got as the only “anti-war” candidate in the race. And the Swift Boat attackers would never have gotten the leverage they achieved because Kerry could have run as a real “hero,” someone who was willing to risk his career as a young man by coming back from Vietnam and coming out against the war.

    Kerry’s vote meant he could not draw on his opposition to the Vietnam War, forcing the campaign to reposition his “heroism” in terms of having been on active duty, rescuing people under fire, and winning Purple Hearts. Thus Kerry’s unfortunate “reporting for duty” remark at the beginning of the Democratic National Convention, against a background of high-ranking military officers. But “heroes” at Kerry’s level in Vietnam were not rare; lots of people won Purple Hearts.

    Nothing is more valuable in political campaigns than being able to seize and hold the high moral ground. By descending to his opponents’ level with the Iraq vote, Kerry surrendered the moral high ground he could have occupied in taking on Bush’s illegal and unconstitutional war. And if you think I am exaggerating the effect a vote against the war would have had, Bush was so weak that Kerry, even after tying one hand behind his back by throwing away his record of true heroism, still came close to winning. With a vote against the war, he could have taken the Iraq war to Bush mercilessly, and I have no doubt he would have won.

    Politicians will always have plenty of “excuses” for voting this way or that. Think tanks and their staff grind out this pap. But for all but an exceptional few, the ultimate determinate is fear of survival. There is almost no chance of changing this dynamic by lobbying in the moment for or against this action, or this or that bill. Unless and until the forces for peace develop a “long game” for changing the country’s attitudes towards war and peace, on the scale of the campaign that the Koch brothers and the Republican billionaires have run since Goldwater’s defeat in 1964, too many Democratic candidates for office will continue to cower in fear when forced to vote for war or peace.

    (Sanders has shown that there is substantial support for a more peaceful approach within the Democratic Party, and in the country as a whole. A Sanders win in November would shift the ground, but he would still face deep structural opposition. And in the event of anything other than a Sanders victory in November, we will surely be told that his campaign proves that Democrats cannot win without being more hawkish.)

    • beat stocker

      Splendid commentary, thank you!

    • dale ruff

      60% of Congressional Democrats voted against war authorization. Why did they not fear committing political suicide, as you suggest Clinton and Kerry did?

  • vinnie

    The regime of Bushie the Lesser intentionally chose the confusing term “weapons of mass destruction (WMD)” to imply to American voters (and the world) that Saddam had functional nuclear weapons. This was further confused by repeated press releases about US or UN inspections of Iraqi nuclear refining facilities. But the ENTIRE WORLD knew that Iraq had poison gas (WMD includes “chemical, biological, and nuclear” weapons) because the US SOLD poison gas to Saddam during the Iran-Iraq war. And besides using US poison gas to kill rebellious Kurds, Iraq had used gas to kill Iranians in the endless and pointless battles along the Shat al Arab. And when US ground troops overran Iraqi rear areas during Gulf II, the Sequel, we did in fact find piles of US poison gas bombs and artillery shells in Iraqi arsenals. But US voters would NEVER have backed an invasion of Iraq to simply get BACK the inhuman poisons we had SOLD to Saddam.

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